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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

13.06.2025 11:30

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

What is the most popular song that includes the word "you"? Are there any other songs that use "you" multiple times?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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Can you share the entire summary of your spiritual life?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

CONCLUSION:

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Why are daughters mean to their mothers?

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Are there legal obligations to report the known whereabouts of a missing person that doesn’t want to be found?

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Kabir (a weaver)

There's no way Republican Trump won all seven swing states. How was he able to cheat and steal the election?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

If a non-LGBT man (of any age) from a Western country attracts far more mosquitoes than potential dates, what does that say about him?

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Why do so many people suddenly think it's acceptable to continue to live with their parents into adulthood?

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

I have a bad reputation and need help. What should I do?

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Why are there posts saying the T in LGBT should be dropped? With what is happening in the US and beyond against the trans community cause for concern that if this is accepted could it be deemed acceptable to start on the LGB community again?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Why did my ex move on so quickly?

I am like a fish out of water,

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Where did the false claim that Haitian immigrants are eating pets come from?

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

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He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

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ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

NOW…

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Now here in this verse

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Sain (a barber)

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;